Blastoise vs Greninja
Blastoise and Greninja have the same base stat total (530), Greninja is faster (base Speed 122 vs 78), and neither has a super-effective hit from its own types (Blastoise: ½× at best against Greninja; Greninja: 1× at best against Blastoise).
Water-type starter finals from Kanto and Kalos.
Base stats side by side
| Stat | Blastoise | Greninja |
|---|---|---|
| HP | 79 (higher) | 72 |
| Attack | 83 | 95 (higher) |
| Defense | 100 (higher) | 67 |
| Sp. Atk | 85 | 103 (higher) |
| Sp. Def | 105 (higher) | 71 |
| Speed | 78 | 122 (higher) |
| Total | 530 | 530 |
| Bulk | 284 (higher) | 210 |
Who has the edge?
Greninja is faster (122 vs 78 base Speed), has the higher Attack (95 vs 83), has the higher Sp. Atk (103 vs 85), and resists Blastoise’s own-type moves (½× at best), but Blastoise has more bulk, counting HP, Defense and Sp. Def together (284 vs 210).
Blastoise is ahead on
- has more bulk, counting HP, Defense and Sp. Def together (284 vs 210)
Greninja is ahead on
- is faster (122 vs 78 base Speed)
- has the higher Attack (95 vs 83)
- has the higher Sp. Atk (103 vs 85)
- resists Blastoise’s own-type moves (½× at best)
This compares base numbers and the type chart; it does not predict a winner. A real battle also depends on level, nature and EVs, the moves each one knows (a Pokémon does not always learn a move of its own type), held items, weather and terrain, and abilities (Blastoise: Torrent, Rain Dish; Greninja: Torrent, Protean), so either one can come out ahead.
Who moves first?
At Level 50 with 252 Speed EVs, 31 IVs and a neutral nature, Blastoise has 130 Speed and Greninja has 174, so Greninja moves first when both use moves of the same priority and no item, ability, status or stat change gets in the way.
| Speed | Blastoise | Greninja |
|---|---|---|
| Base Speed | 78 | 122 |
| Level 50, 252 EVs, neutral nature | 130 | 174 |
Type matchup, both ways
Blastoise (Water) attacking Greninja
Water ½×. Using only its own type, Blastoise hits Greninja for ½× with Water moves (not very effective).
Greninja (Water/Dark) attacking Blastoise
Water ½×, Dark 1×. Using only its own types, Greninja hits Blastoise for ½× with Water moves (not very effective) and 1× with Dark moves (normal damage).
What hits each one for 2× or more
- Blastoise: Electric 2× (super effective), Grass 2× (super effective).
- Greninja: Electric 2× (super effective), Grass 2× (super effective), Fighting 2× (super effective), Bug 2× (super effective), Fairy 2× (super effective).
The multipliers come from the 18×18 type chart; what a Pokémon can actually use depends on the moves it learns.
Abilities
Blastoise
- Torrent. Strengthens Water moves to inflict 1.5× damage at 1/3 max HP or less.
- Rain Dish (hidden ability). Heals for 1/16 max HP after each turn during rain.
Greninja
- Torrent. Strengthens Water moves to inflict 1.5× damage at 1/3 max HP or less.
- Protean (hidden ability). Changes the bearer's type to match each move it uses.
Size, generation and evolution
Blastoise is taller (1.6 m vs 1.5 m for Greninja), and Blastoise is heavier (85.5 kg vs 40 kg for Greninja).
| Detail | Blastoise | Greninja |
|---|---|---|
| Height | 1.6 m | 1.5 m |
| Weight | 85.5 kg | 40 kg |
| Generation | 1 (Kanto) | 6 (Kalos) |
| Evolution line | Squirtle → Wartortle → Blastoise | Froakie → Frogadier → Greninja |
Blastoise (#0009) is a Water-type Shellfish Pokémon from Kanto, first seen in Generation 1, a starter Pokémon. Its evolution line is Squirtle → Wartortle → Blastoise.
Greninja (#0658) is a Water/Dark-type Ninja Pokémon from Kalos, first seen in Generation 6, a starter Pokémon. Its evolution line is Froakie → Frogadier → Greninja.
Keep exploring
- Open Blastoise and Greninja in the Compare tool
- Blastoise and Greninja Pokédex pages
- Water type · Water/Dark weaknesses
- Speed tiers