Greninja vs Cinderace
Greninja and Cinderace have the same base stat total (530), Greninja is faster (base Speed 122 vs 119), and Greninja’s Water moves hit Cinderace for 2×, while Cinderace’s own types do only ½× to Greninja.
Starter finals from Kalos and Galar that fans often compare.
Base stats side by side
| Stat | Greninja | Cinderace |
|---|---|---|
| HP | 72 | 80 (higher) |
| Attack | 95 | 116 (higher) |
| Defense | 67 | 75 (higher) |
| Sp. Atk | 103 (higher) | 65 |
| Sp. Def | 71 | 75 (higher) |
| Speed | 122 (higher) | 119 |
| Total | 530 | 530 |
| Bulk | 210 | 230 (higher) |
Who has the edge?
Greninja is faster (122 vs 119 base Speed), has the higher Sp. Atk (103 vs 65), hits Cinderace for 2× with its Water moves, and resists Cinderace’s own-type moves (½× at best), but Cinderace has the higher Attack (116 vs 95) and has more bulk, counting HP, Defense and Sp. Def together (230 vs 210).
Greninja is ahead on
- is faster (122 vs 119 base Speed)
- has the higher Sp. Atk (103 vs 65)
- hits Cinderace for 2× with its Water moves
- resists Cinderace’s own-type moves (½× at best)
Cinderace is ahead on
- has the higher Attack (116 vs 95)
- has more bulk, counting HP, Defense and Sp. Def together (230 vs 210)
This compares base numbers and the type chart; it does not predict a winner. A real battle also depends on level, nature and EVs, the moves each one knows (a Pokémon does not always learn a move of its own type), held items, weather and terrain, and abilities (Greninja: Torrent, Protean; Cinderace: Blaze, Libero), so either one can come out ahead.
Who moves first?
At Level 50 with 252 Speed EVs, 31 IVs and a neutral nature, Greninja has 174 Speed and Cinderace has 171, so Greninja moves first when both use moves of the same priority and no item, ability, status or stat change gets in the way.
| Speed | Greninja | Cinderace |
|---|---|---|
| Base Speed | 122 | 119 |
| Level 50, 252 EVs, neutral nature | 174 | 171 |
Type matchup, both ways
Greninja (Water/Dark) attacking Cinderace
Water 2×, Dark 1×. Using only its own types, Greninja hits Cinderace for 2× with Water moves (super effective) and 1× with Dark moves (normal damage).
Cinderace (Fire) attacking Greninja
Fire ½×. Using only its own type, Cinderace hits Greninja for ½× with Fire moves (not very effective).
What hits each one for 2× or more
- Greninja: Electric 2× (super effective), Grass 2× (super effective), Fighting 2× (super effective), Bug 2× (super effective), Fairy 2× (super effective).
- Cinderace: Water 2× (super effective), Ground 2× (super effective), Rock 2× (super effective).
The multipliers come from the 18×18 type chart; what a Pokémon can actually use depends on the moves it learns.
Abilities
Greninja
- Torrent. Strengthens Water moves to inflict 1.5× damage at 1/3 max HP or less.
- Protean (hidden ability). Changes the bearer's type to match each move it uses.
Cinderace
- Blaze. Strengthens Fire moves to inflict 1.5× damage at 1/3 max HP or less.
- Libero (hidden ability). Libero changes the Pokémon's type to that of its previously used attack.
Size, generation and evolution
Greninja is taller (1.5 m vs 1.4 m for Cinderace), and Greninja is heavier (40 kg vs 33 kg for Cinderace).
| Detail | Greninja | Cinderace |
|---|---|---|
| Height | 1.5 m | 1.4 m |
| Weight | 40 kg | 33 kg |
| Generation | 6 (Kalos) | 8 (Galar) |
| Evolution line | Froakie → Frogadier → Greninja | Scorbunny → Raboot → Cinderace |
Greninja (#0658) is a Water/Dark-type Ninja Pokémon from Kalos, first seen in Generation 6, a starter Pokémon. Its evolution line is Froakie → Frogadier → Greninja.
Cinderace (#0815) is a Fire-type Striker Pokémon from Galar, first seen in Generation 8, a starter Pokémon. Its evolution line is Scorbunny → Raboot → Cinderace.
Keep exploring
- Open Greninja and Cinderace in the Compare tool
- Greninja and Cinderace Pokédex pages
- Water/Dark weaknesses · Fire type
- Speed tiers