Kyogre vs Groudon
Kyogre and Groudon have the same base stat total (670), they have the same Speed (142 at Level 50), and Kyogre’s Water moves hit Groudon for 2×, while Groudon’s own types do 1× damage to Kyogre.
Weather trio of Hoenn: the rival Water and Ground legendaries.
Base stats side by side
| Stat | Kyogre | Groudon |
|---|---|---|
| HP | 100 | 100 |
| Attack | 100 | 150 (higher) |
| Defense | 90 | 140 (higher) |
| Sp. Atk | 150 (higher) | 100 |
| Sp. Def | 140 (higher) | 90 |
| Speed | 90 | 90 |
| Total | 670 | 670 |
| Bulk | 330 | 330 |
Who has the edge?
Kyogre has the higher Sp. Atk (150 vs 100) and hits Groudon for 2× with its Water moves, but Groudon has the higher Attack (150 vs 100).
Kyogre is ahead on
- has the higher Sp. Atk (150 vs 100)
- hits Groudon for 2× with its Water moves
Groudon is ahead on
- has the higher Attack (150 vs 100)
This compares base numbers and the type chart; it does not predict a winner. A real battle also depends on level, nature and EVs, the moves each one knows (a Pokémon does not always learn a move of its own type), held items, weather and terrain, and abilities (Kyogre: Drizzle; Groudon: Drought), so either one can come out ahead.
Who moves first?
At Level 50 with 252 Speed EVs, 31 IVs and a neutral nature, Kyogre and Groudon both reach 142 Speed. A speed tie is decided at random.
| Speed | Kyogre | Groudon |
|---|---|---|
| Base Speed | 90 | 90 |
| Level 50, 252 EVs, neutral nature | 142 | 142 |
Type matchup, both ways
Kyogre (Water) attacking Groudon
Water 2×. Using only its own type, Kyogre hits Groudon for 2× with Water moves (super effective).
Groudon (Ground) attacking Kyogre
Ground 1×. Using only its own type, Groudon hits Kyogre for 1× with Ground moves (normal damage).
What hits each one for 2× or more
- Kyogre: Electric 2× (super effective), Grass 2× (super effective).
- Groudon: Water 2× (super effective), Grass 2× (super effective), Ice 2× (super effective).
The multipliers come from the 18×18 type chart; what a Pokémon can actually use depends on the moves it learns.
Abilities
Kyogre
- Drizzle. Summons rain for five turns upon entering battle (eight with a Damp Rock).
Groudon
- Drought. Summons strong sunlight for five turns upon entering battle (eight with a Heat Rock).
Size, generation and evolution
Kyogre is taller (4.5 m vs 3.5 m for Groudon), and Groudon is heavier (950 kg vs 352 kg for Kyogre).
| Detail | Kyogre | Groudon |
|---|---|---|
| Height | 4.5 m | 3.5 m |
| Weight | 352 kg | 950 kg |
| Generation | 3 (Hoenn) | 3 (Hoenn) |
| Evolution line | Kyogre (does not evolve) | Groudon (does not evolve) |
Kyogre (#0382) is a Water-type Sea Basin Pokémon from Hoenn, first seen in Generation 3, a Legendary Pokémon. Kyogre does not evolve.
Groudon (#0383) is a Ground-type Continent Pokémon from Hoenn, first seen in Generation 3, a Legendary Pokémon. Groudon does not evolve.
Keep exploring
- Open Kyogre and Groudon in the Compare tool
- Kyogre and Groudon Pokédex pages
- Water type · Ground type
- Speed tiers